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Q&A: Call for Criminal Negligence Probe Following the Evidence

Day 3 · 8:34:22 · Cst. Helen Grus · Dean Allison

  • 📑 In a January 2024 affidavit Grus states five of the infant death causes appear in Pfizer’s 5.3.6 list of side effects.
  • 🔎 She maintains a criminal-negligence investigation is required and that officers must follow the money and every lead without ignoring inconvenient stones.
  • ⚖️ Chair links her call to broader recommendations so inquiry evidence produces learning, accountability and preparedness for the next pandemic.

Grus’s formal request for a criminal investigation grounded in tribunal disclosure.

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Transcript

Cst. Helen Grus · 8:34:22

Going back to my case, I think what's important— I've repeated this in my testimony at the tribunal. There's an affid— I've completed a couple affidavits, but there's one dated in January 2024. I do believe a criminal investigation should be conducted. It's stated right in my affidavit It's important to note that through the disclosure that came out, it's 4 and a half years. So information has come out, information about these babies has come out through evidence that was presented at the tribunal. Of those babies that passed in that time frame, 5 of them, the, the causation of their deaths, those causes, they're all listed on Pfizer's 5.3.6 6 documents of side effects from the Pfizer vaccine. It doesn't conclude that that's what killed the babies, but further investigation must be done. And this is what I've maintained. I, I touched on it with my compelled interview with the Sergeant of Professional Standards, but in my affidavit I again reiterated, given all the evidence— there's over 110 exhibits in my tribunal alone.

Cst. Helen Grus · 8:35:33

One of those exhibits is my 10 binders that I brought forward on a USB stick. So I said, you know, there should be a criminal investigation here of criminal negligence.

Speaker D · 8:35:47

For whom?

Dean Allison · 8:35:49

On whom?

Cst. Helen Grus · 8:35:50

That's where the investigate— follow the money. I believe you follow the money and the evidence and where the evidence takes us. Again, that's all we do as police officers, we follow the evidence, but we don't ignore some stones just because they're prettier than others.

Dean Allison · 8:36:07

I noticed Mr. Drysdale shaking his head back there and nodding in agreement, uh, and it's good. I think they have some recommendations that, that I think fall in line, uh, with what you're suggesting. And I had a conversation with Mr. Buckley at the break about ways in which this this inquiry doesn't get lost, the citizens' inquiry, their work doesn't get lost, and that we actually have some process moving forward to take the information and evidence that's been gathered. And it's not about finding fault necessarily, but Ensuring that we're going to have another pandemic, guaranteed we're going to have another pandemic of some sort. And let's not repeat again and learn from what the mistakes were made in the past.

Dean Allison · 8:37:07

And it's about a learning exercise, I think. And now there is a need for justice. I agree to that. And, and, but I think there's I said there's a lot of justice to be done, and they're not just to one individual. But anyway, I'll leave it there.