14-Day Status Delay Masks Early Injuries and Infections

Day 3 · 0:34:16 · Deanna McLeod · Dean Allison

• ⏱️ Public-health reporting waits 14 days before counting someone as vaccinated, so most early adverse events are mis-attributed to the unvaccinated.
• 📍 Short-term case clusters appear immediately after primary and booster rollouts, potentially seeding further spread including Omicron.
• ❓ Both trial and real-world immunity claims become confounded because early induced infections are excluded from analysis.

Methodological delay systematically under-counts vaccine-related harms.

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Transcript

Deanna McLeod · 0:34:16

Okay, so basically one of the things that we did too is we basically noted that there was a delay in the way that they assigned vaccination status whenever they were— when Public Health, so when you're looking at a population level, they basically wait, they give you a dose and then 2 weeks later they change your status. So if you're doing a safety evaluation, you have to actually look at it immediately after you get your dose. And if you're wanting to understand what's happening at a population level, you actually should analyze it right at this, at the moment that you receive the dose.

Dean Allison · 0:34:51

And I'm sorry because I just said I can't interrupt because we're short of time, but we've had person after person and chart after chart showing that there's a big spike of symptoms in the first 7 days for, like, that's where the adverse reactions start. But if Ontario isn't even treating you as vaccinated for their reporting purposes until 14 days after a shot, then the majority of adverse reactions aren't even going to be reported because they're going to be reported as occurring in the unvaccinated when it's actually a vaccine injury.

Speaker D · 0:35:25

Right.

Deanna McLeod · 0:35:25

So what we did was we looked at the data and we actually asked for any short-term cases. Those would be, uh, COVID infections that occurred in people who were vaccinated 14 days after they received their shot, which would have normally been categorized as another vaccination status. And what we found is that there were two clusters. The first cluster occurred immediately upon rollout of the COVID-19 vaccine in the general population, and you can see that that's the little call-out to the left. So what's, what's driving the infection— a main— so again, The way public health sees it is that you're a disease vector if you're infected. So they get vaccinated, they get COVID, which is what this is showing. They're getting COVID cases immediately after. It's not being counted in the overall population level data for effectiveness, but they're actually driving infection whenever they get vaccinated. You can see that there's another cluster in and around when they were rolling out the booster.

Deanna McLeod · 0:36:25

So it is very possible that the rollout of the booster contributed to the Omicron surge because you're actually causing people to get COVID and then they're spreading it to their neighbors. And so therefore it would probably be counterproductive, you would imagine, if you can give somebody an induced COVID and then basically claim that you were reducing it because now they've already had COVID. So it also brings a lot of the population level data, the real world data into question because it's very confusing now. In the clinical trials they did the same thing. They had it, they didn't count, a COVID case have occurred in the short term, and they only counted it after a certain term, certain time. So what that means is that we can't tell whether the immunity that they're claiming is occurring was due to the infection that was induced immediately after they received the shot, or whether it was actually the vaccine. So it's very unclear.

Dean Allison · 0:37:20

And I'm just going to warn you, you've got 5 minutes and I'm going to stop interrupting.