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Vaccines Arrive: COVID Cases, Injuries, Cleveland Clinic Pattern

Day 2 · 7:59:49 · Shawn Buckley · Dean Allison · Charles Hoffe · Jennifer Britain

  • 📈 ER busyness began with vaccine rollout; early post-shot COVID was still counted as unvaccinated for two weeks.
  • 🔁 Hoffe cites Cleveland Clinic ~51,000 healthcare-worker data: more doses correlated with more COVID infections.
  • ⏳ He argues the rollout prolonged the pandemic by raising infection likelihood rather than ending it.

Post-vaccine caseload, statistical labeling, and dose-response infection studies.

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Transcript

Shawn Buckley · 7:59:49

Yes.

Dean Allison · 7:59:49

Can you share what your experience with the vaccine was?

Charles Hoffe · 7:59:53

Yes. That's when the ER started to get busy because, you know, as Senator Johnson mentioned yesterday, one of the side effects of the vaccine was that you would get COVID. And of course, these people who got COVID within 2 weeks of their vaccination were still considered unvaccinated. You weren't statistically considered vaccinated until 2 weeks after your second shot. So they would quote this as unvaccinated people with COVID Meanwhile, they were The reason why they had it is because their immune system was suppressed by their COVID shot and they were more likely to get COVID. And so, so that's when all the COVID cases really started needing care, was once the vaccine rollout started. And it wasn't just people with COVID but it was also the vaccine injuries.

Dean Allison · 8:00:51

So again, I think that's a point that, that will shock people. And I know that when Senator Johnson was here yesterday, he was also talking about that, how there's evidence that the more shots you had— and we're going to have a witness testify with brand new research using Ontario Health data showing, I think, about 6 months into the pandemic, um, it seemed that the vaccine was, was causing COVID or a side effect of the vaccine is, is you're more likely to catch COVID And I think the first study that came out that I became aware of was the Cleveland Clinic.

Jennifer Britain · 8:01:30

And correct.

Dean Allison · 8:01:30

Can you share? You're familiar with that?

Charles Hoffe · 8:01:32

I'm quite familiar.

Charles Hoffe · 8:01:33

Yeah.

Dean Allison · 8:01:33

What did that study show? And can you explain what the Cleveland Clinic was and how they collected that data?

Charles Hoffe · 8:01:38

Yeah. So that Cleveland study was— I mean, there's since been a number of other studies that have retested that. So that was research done, I believe it was to test the effectiveness of the, the COVID booster that was designed for the Omicron variant. And so this was a study on 51,000 healthcare workers in Cleveland. It was basically a study designed to show how effective this booster was. And so they This was healthcare workers, and so not all of them had had the vaccines because they weren't mandated there. So some had had none, some had had one shot, some had had two. And at that point, the Omicron one was there. Some people had had four shots. And what they found was a direct correlation that the people that were getting COVID the least were the unvaccinated. And literally, the more shots you had, the more often and the more likely you would get COVID.

Charles Hoffe · 8:02:42

And the people that had it the most, were getting COVID the most, were the most vaccinated. In other words, the people that had had the Omicron booster.

Dean Allison · 8:02:55

One of the things that's interesting about that, and as you say, and I'm aware that there are other studies, in fact, I don't think there's a study that shows anything different. And this inquiry is going to have some original research using Ontario data to show the same thing— is there's a portion of the population that everyone understands there's deaths around us and injuries. And I mean, here we've, we've had all this testimony today about that. But a large number of people believe that, well, yeah, but it's caused by long COVID. So thank goodness we had the vaccine to protect people from long COVID. They might be shocked to learn that no, actually the vaccine— and the major side effect is, is you're more likely to get COVID. So if long COVID is the cause of this, then by that logic, long COVID is a vaccine injury.

Charles Hoffe · 8:03:43

Yes.

Dean Allison · 8:03:44

Let alone, we also know that likely it's more vaccine injury than long COVID anyway.

Charles Hoffe · 8:03:51

But the other thing that this shows is that the vaccine rollout prolonged the pandemic. By making people more likely to get COVID. So rather than this being our way out of the pandemic, it did the exact opposite because more people got COVID. The more boosters you got, the more likely you would get COVID. And the second, you know, and so I mean, there's so much data from it.

Dean Allison · 8:04:18

I want to bring this back down to your experience though. So yes, so your people are coming in for COVID in your community, but it's just nothing that requires hospitalization or, or anything different than how you treat a flu. What type of injuries were you seeing from the vaccine and what did you do about it?