Five-Year Poker-Hot Pain and Lost Friendships¶
Day 2 · 7:15:19 · Dean Allison · Eva Caven · Marylou Lavalle · Shawn Buckley · Jennifer Britain
- 🔥 Unmanaged inflammation feels like a red-hot poker; prednisone calms it but spikes eye pressure in a cat-and-mouse fight.
- 🚫 She cannot drive at night, tires reading with one eye, quit tennis, and left nursing early from visual fatigue.
- 💔 Family is supportive yet some friends drift when the cause is named vaccine injury; doctors treat “uveitis” in silence and she skipped VISP.
Ongoing pain management, lifestyle losses, social cost, and clinical quiet around the injury label.
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Transcript¶
Dean Allison · 7:15:19
So now this inflammation that's still being managed today, this—.
Eva Caven · 7:15:23
By prednisone.
Eva Caven · 7:15:24
Yeah.
Dean Allison · 7:15:24
So 5 years later. And what happens if you're not managing it?
Eva Caven · 7:15:29
Yeah, it'll get very red again and angry looking and burning and feels like somebody's poking me in the eye and my eye starts to water. And so, you know, I end up using more drops and I continue to go to the doctors when it gets really bad and then they just kind of augment my medication and the pressure in my eye goes up because prednisone is known for that.
Dean Allison · 7:15:52
It'll just make your pressure go up and you don't want that to happen.
Eva Caven · 7:15:56
So, so What now? It's like I just keep taking the drops and hoping to look for— I try to keep positive. I do yoga, I go for walks in nature, and I'm hoping that somehow— I just find that there's not really an answer for me right now.
Dean Allison · 7:16:23
Yeah. And where I was going is just when we had had an interview Earlier, I think you described it as like if you're not managing well, it's literally like a red-hot poker in your eye. Like you're talking about severe pain.
Eva Caven · 7:16:36
Severe pain when it—.
Eva Caven · 7:16:37
Yeah, when it's bad.
Marylou Lavalle · 7:16:37
And then I have to increase the prednisone drops.
Dean Allison · 7:16:40
Right. And you're like, you're in pain every day with this eye, am I right?
Eva Caven · 7:16:45
Yeah.
Eva Caven · 7:16:45
Right now I'm not because I really—.
Dean Allison · 7:16:47
I know I was coming here, so I made sure I had extra drops.
Eva Caven · 7:16:51
It does really help the prednisone, but and it's the eye pressure that will go up, right? So it's like a cat and mouse game.
Dean Allison · 7:17:01
Yeah. Right. So you've lost vision in one eye effectively, and you have to manage it to avoid chronic pain.
Speaker J · 7:17:09
That's right.
Eva Caven · 7:17:10
Yeah.
Dean Allison · 7:17:11
Okay. What's— and so my understanding is, is you can't drive at night anymore. You have a hard time reading.
Eva Caven · 7:17:22
Yeah, I get tired, like, reading.
Dean Allison · 7:17:24
Um, you can't do things like playing tennis, um, and you couldn't— you've retired early over this.
Eva Caven · 7:17:31
Yeah, I did, because, um, it just didn't— I didn't have the same energy level, I would say, because, you know, you have to look at a lot of reports and do a lot of, you know, computer work and stuff, and your eyes get tired if you just have the one eye.
Dean Allison · 7:17:49
What's been the hardest part of this?
Eva Caven · 7:17:53
Oh, the hardest part has been, you know, uh, for me, like, waking up every morning. Sometimes I have dreams, I wake up and it's gone and my eye is normal again. But, um, that, and also, um, you know, family and friends. I've, um, My family has been very, very supportive, but, you know, sometimes maybe they don't really understand it because they've all had shots and no one has had any injuries. And that's, that's my worry because I don't know the long-term effects of all these shots that people have gotten. And I, I'm very happy that everybody's okay right now. Um, in my social circle, I hear a lot of people that have had cancer friends, people that had cancer, people that their father died right after the shot. And I'm sure a lot of people hear of people that have had problems like that too, heart inflammation.
Dean Allison · 7:18:55
Have you lost some, some friends over this? Yeah, friendships.
Marylou Lavalle · 7:18:59
I mean, yeah, because they're really into the, um, the shots and, um, they, they're, you know, they were understanding of my, my injury, but, um, I don't know.
Dean Allison · 7:19:13
But the cause of the injury is unacceptable for them, right? Like, you've lost friendship. You, you basically have lost an eye, and it's uncomfortable if you don't manage it. It's uncontrollable pain.
Eva Caven · 7:19:25
Like, that's right.
Dean Allison · 7:19:26
So you're injured, and if it was anything but vaccine injury, you'd still have friendships with That's right, I guess. Well, I'm asking you.
Eva Caven · 7:19:37
Yeah, I know I would. I probably would because it caused, you know, two different thoughts of what people think about the whole vaccination idea about COVID-19. And everybody was scared. I understand that in the beginning.
Marylou Lavalle · 7:19:56
And so they're just—.
Eva Caven · 7:19:57
And they just want to get on with life. You know, and when you tell someone, and even if you meet someone new, you say, yeah, I was—.
Marylou Lavalle · 7:20:05
I'll say that I was injured from the vax, and then they would just say, oh yeah, they just, hmm, and they were just like, they don't understand it.
Dean Allison · 7:20:23
Do the, um, doctors recognize you you as having, um, as this being a vaccine injury? And did you— have you applied to the government for the compensation at all?
Shawn Buckley · 7:20:34
And were—.
Jennifer Britain · 7:20:34
No, I, I didn't because I heard that it wouldn't be worth it because a lot of people were doing it.
Eva Caven · 7:20:41
And, um, the doc, the good doctor that I had wrote the note and he said she should not get the, the next shot.
Jennifer Britain · 7:20:47
So he was very good.
Eva Caven · 7:20:49
Um, when you go to other appointments, let's say if I go to optimal, um, optometrist and just get checked. No one really mentions the fact that it was from an injury. It's always like kind of hush-hush, or not hush-hush, just like a deafening silence.
Dean Allison · 7:21:04
Like there's no—.
Eva Caven · 7:21:05
They just treat it like a severe uveitis, like a bad inflammation of the eye.
Jennifer Britain · 7:21:11
No one talks about it.
Speaker J · 7:21:13
And after a while you don't feel like talking about it with them.
Dean Allison · 7:21:17
Yeah, I think the fact that you had been tested, you you know, your eyes had 20/20 vision just, just days before. I think this is— I was fine, you know, we're having this discussion now, it's been years, and it's been very tense for such, you know, for, for some time. But hopefully now that it's a bit more relaxed society and be able to examine this and the repercussions of these vaccine, um, vaccines, maybe with bit, a bit more open-mindedness, and hopefully be able to make some changes in the future and all that stuff.
Speaker J · 7:21:49
I hope so.
Eva Caven · 7:21:49
I'm very thankful to be here, and all the people that applied to be here, I'm thankful to be talking about it too. And to, um, uh, Mr. Buckley and MP Allison, thank you very much for this.
Dean Allison · 7:22:03
I hope that we can go forward with this and make it—.
Eva Caven · 7:22:06
People be acknowledged that this has happened.
Shawn Buckley · 7:22:11
Thanks.