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Rogan, Long-Form Media and Facebook’s Blood on Its Hands

Day 2 · 4:32:09 · Ron Johnson · Jason Lavigne

  • 🎙️ Johnson praises Joe Rogan and Aaron Rodgers for speaking out; media attacks failed because Rogan’s audience trusted his homework.
  • 📱 He hopes long-form unedited interviews survive, even if clips get segmented, so long as context is preserved.
  • ☠️ Facebook shutting injured support groups, he argues, cost people solace and contributed to suicides; change came only after the Missouri-Louisiana suit exposed White House pressure.

Free-speech platforms, censorship of support groups, and why pressure eased.

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Transcript

Ron Johnson · 4:32:09

First of all, I could not have been appreciative enough of people like Joe Rogan, you know, Aaron Rodgers, you know, speaking out, being vilified for it. Uh, the problem the media had attacking Joe Rogan is he was probably more powerful than all of them. He has more listeners, and they believe him. He's a trusted source because he does his homework. Um, so no, I just truly appreciated that, and I don't think they laid a hand on Joe Rogan or Aaron Rodgers for that matter. And let's face it, all of us are being proven Correct.

Jason Lavigne · 4:32:38

One of the things that came out of that was long-form unedited interviews like Joe Rogan, where people just come on and talk. One guest continues to have conversations back and forth, and not edited or not scripted. Do you think there's a future for that kind of format?

Ron Johnson · 4:32:53

I hope so. Probably a limited audience. I mean, people have relatively short attention spans, but if, you know, if you're, uh, interesting enough co-host and engaging enough, the interviewee, you might be able to hold people's attention. What happens an awful lot with Joe Rogan is that the most salient parts get broken up into segments. Same thing happened with my hearings, with my events. I'm sure what'll happen here is you'll end up with, you know, 30 seconds, a minute, 2 minutes, something like that, of segments, which is— that's fine, uh, as long as it's not completely taken out of context, which sometimes it can be. But, uh, It works.

Jason Lavigne · 4:33:31

It works to an extent. Depends on the format and the host, I guess. Now, you also talked about Facebook, the platform shutting down community groups during this, and this was a place where people were looking to just be heard and be able to share their experiences of being shut down. For example, we had our YouTube channel deleted 3 times because we would just talk about what's going on in the news. We weren't making medical claims, but there was claims in the news. Uh, this has changed now. It's, it's so much changed now, but how can we make sure this doesn't happen again?

Ron Johnson · 4:34:00

Well, the only reason it's changing is, is, uh, Louisiana and Missouri brought a lawsuit against the Biden administration and won. And so it was revealed that the Biden administration was putting pressure on companies like Facebook to, again, censor malinformation. There was a truth that they just didn't like. Uh, so that, that was incredibly crucial. But no, I mean, Facebook, They've got blood on their hands. The fact they shut down these support groups for the COVID injection injured, that results in people's suicides. They lost any kind of comfort, any kind of solace, because they lost contact with that Facebook group. And that's Facebook that caused it.