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Lavigne Interviews Senator Ron Johnson on Media Capture

Day 2 · 4:13:16 · Jason Lavigne · Ron Johnson

  • 📺 Johnson is unsurprised by empty mainstream cameras; his April report on hidden vaccine-safety signals received zero legacy-news coverage.
  • 💊 He attributes silence to Big Pharma capture—U.S. drug ads buy narrative, not just products—and to the BBC-led Trusted News Initiative.
  • 🎤 He praises Joe Rogan and Aaron Rodgers for surviving vilification and notes long-form clips still surface truth.

Side-interview on pharma-media capture and the value of unedited platforms.

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Transcript

Jason Lavigne · 4:13:16

Hello, this is Jason Lavigne here with Senator Ron Johnson from the US, who's up here at the Allison Inquiry sharing some testimony with us. First of all, thank you very much for coming up to Canada.

Ron Johnson · 4:13:25

Well, thanks for coming to the event.

Jason Lavigne · 4:13:28

Wouldn't miss this for the world. We're one of the channels that were doing this from the very beginning. We've lost our YouTube channel twice covering this particular topic. And as you see in that room, there's probably 5 or 6 independent media sitting there, but no mainstream media. Normally for something like this, you see a whole wall of cameras and the big cameras, right? And a lot of lights and all that. But you're not seeing that here in Canada. Are you a little bit surprised?

Ron Johnson · 4:13:52

No.

Ron Johnson · 4:13:53

Uh, you know, I talked about my, what I consider a blockbuster report from April 29th, uh, which revealed that Peter Marks, head of the division that approves vaccines, surveils for safety, was warned that algorithm was going to hide safety signals. He was shown the safety signals, continued to use the old algorithm that, that hit him, and denies the safety signals to this day. So, uh, not one major news network, not one major, uh, newspaper has covered that as news. I've been interviewed on some of their talk shows, but it's never been covered as news. So, and we, we have capture of our media and of our federal health agencies by Big Pharma. The fact that in America we allow Big Pharma to advertise on network TV. If you ever watch one of those drug ads, they're not selling the drug, they're buying the narrative. And they effectively bought the narrative during COVID and they're still buying it.

Jason Lavigne · 4:14:50

Well, I'm glad you used the word captured because that was my next question. As you saw on CNN and Anderson Cooper, brought to you by Pfizer, there would be that little commercial break there. And you also talked about the Trusted News Initiative here in your testimony. Have you noticed that the institution has been fully captured, not just by the drug companies but by a large organization like the Trusted News Initiative? And what are your thoughts about trying to reverse that and maybe ending that kind of capturing of your media and up here in Canada as well?

Ron Johnson · 4:15:16

I, I lumped them all together as the, the COVID cartel, and include the Biden administration, including media, included Big Pharma. With the federal health agencies. So the Trust the News initiative is just one of the tools they used, developed by the BBC, first of all, to combat misinformation on elections, but then they very effectively switched over to misinformation on the coronavirus and COVID. They came up with a new term, mal-information, which is the truth, but just not in the way that, uh, you know, the COVID cartel wants to hear it.

Jason Lavigne · 4:15:55

Now, down in the U.S., it was a little bit more free because you actually do have freedom of speech down there, and you saw people like Joe Rogan talking about this very early. But then the media went after Joe Rogan and painted the picture of him all orange because he was talking about having COVID and dealing with it. What were your thoughts at that time when you saw some of that happening?

Ron Johnson · 4:16:12

First of all, I could not have been appreciative enough of people like Joe Rogan you know, Aaron Rodgers, you know, speaking out, being vilified for it. Uh, the problem the media had attacking Joe Rogan is he was probably more powerful than all of them. It has more listeners, and they, they believe him. He's a trusted source because he does his homework. Um, so no, I, I just truly appreciate that, and I don't think they laid a hand on Joe Rogan or Aaron Rodgers for that matter. And look, let's face it, all of us are being proven correct.

Jason Lavigne · 4:16:41

One of the things that came out of that was long-form unedited interviews like Joe Rogan, where people just come on and talk, one guest continue to have conversations back and forth, and not edited or not scripted. Do you think there's a future for that kind of format?

Ron Johnson · 4:16:56

I hope so. Probably a limited audience. I mean, people have relatively short attention spans, but if, you know, if you're, uh, interesting enough co-host and engaging enough, uh, interviewee, uh, you might be able to hold people's attention. What happens an awful lot with Joe Rogan is it The most salient parts get broken up into segments. Same thing happened with my hearings, with my events. I'm sure what'll happen here is you'll end up with, you know, 30 seconds, a minute, 2 minutes, something like that, of segments, which is— that's fine, uh, as long as it's not completely taken out of context, which sometimes it can be. But, uh, um, it works.

Jason Lavigne · 4:17:34

It works to an extent. It depends on the format and the host, I guess. Now you also talked about Facebook, the platform, shutting down, uh, community groups during this.